只是动画而已~不要那么影响自己的情绪就好.作者: alberthsj 時間: 2007-09-20 09:50
虽然还没看到最后一集（不知道这辈子还能不能看到），动画版已经算是很和谐了，那些新加的剧情的确很像是监督在为人渣平反一样，所以TV版里人渣也算过的去吧作者: 烈焰 時間: 2007-09-20 10:14
错的是编剧啊……SD这种东西……错真的只在编剧啊……XDD作者: alphahon 時間: 2007-09-20 10:28
Thanks for the comment and I think it creates a great discussion point and may I also insert my comments:
Of course everybody admire of him very much. As a guy, I understand that he does not solve the "issue" if it is still under secret. But the problem is that you have to take action if this is no longer the case! (Starting from ch8) At least you shouldi inform all "parties involved" your feelings instead of ignoring Kotonoha and this may not result in QJ... And his irresponible attitude in ch11 is of course the major reason that so many people hate him... (P.S. I just don't know why he accepts everybody but rejects Kotonoha - is it because he is able to sense how dangerous she is?)
Her EQ is at least better compared with the comics version... She mentality looks healthier in the first 3 chapters and I just don't very understand why she changes so much starting from ch 4...
1. Of course her EQ is low, but it seems that all "Q" of her is low, e.g. IQ. For example, she even don't know there is security camera in karaoke box (chapter 4)! And I think her performance in ch11 is also because of her IQ instead of EQ. It seems that her problematic bloodstream has certain effect on her "Q"s except for sex (similar effect on Makoto, but why less effect on Setsuna?)
2. Sekai's character in the second half of the anime is her real character - she just pretends to be outgoing in the first half, and because of the help of Setsuna... She might be similar with Kotonoha if Setsuna does not exist...
She has the greatest character in game version but seems worse in TV anime -> why she has to ofend Kotonoha... her ideas also seems not work, which is different from the game.
Hikari has the highest EQ among all characters and has very high potential to "develop" according to the game version, and she may be the most suitable character along with Makoto (at least she does not care whether Makoto has other sex friends compared with Kotonoha and Sekai)
I think Makoto has to take 70% of responsibility, Sekai 10% of responsibility (she creates the issue) and the other 20% is because of unfortunate (the mental problem of Kotonoha and Sekai).作者: l337b42 時間: 2007-09-20 10:58
和LZ一样,6集之前觉得"这人还不错啊,怎么老有人骂他的..."
然后放暑假回家,断网没的看...回来以后,整个评价都变了...ORZ,纯情小男生就变成双足自走炮了作者: chaigu 時間: 2007-09-20 12:40
这个人渣有了言叶还和世界做啥XX练习嘛 恋爱这种问题首先要学会尊重 既然喜欢一个人就要包容他/她 信任他/她 而且要学会自律 不能见一个爱一个了 要抵制诱惑 这个正式分手前起码要做这些（个人认为） 情感游戏别玩那么高难度 不然很容易玩火上身的
那个自走炮已经漠视了感情的存在 11话他约不到人出去的时候那种口气..作者: 456456456159 時間: 2007-09-20 12:42
渣之所以为渣，是因为他的自走炮威力不容小视阿，而且还是打一枪换一地方的那种，11集的时候还要在后面*N，不过围绕他转的那些女孩还真的挺现实的- -作者: xeo 時間: 2007-09-20 13:16
我觉得诚最大的不好在于他不敢负责任，完全逃避。作者: ppk200 時間: 2007-09-20 13:42
最大的不满就是"它"伤害了很多人...
alphahon你好认真...可惜是英文所以效果不好呢. 汗
[quote=alphahon] Thanks for the comment and I think it creates a great discussion point and may I also insert my comments:
Of course everybody admire of him very much. As a guy, I understand that he does not solve the "issue" if it is still under secret. But the problem is that you have to take action if this is no longer the case! (Starting from ch8) At least you shouldi inform all "parties involved" your feelings instead of ignoring Kotonoha and this may not result in QJ... And his irresponible attitude in ch11 is of course the major reason that so many people hate him... (P.S. I just don't know why he accepts everybody but rejects Kotonoha - is it because he is able to sense how dangerous she is?)
1. Of course her EQ is low, but it seems that all "Q" of her is low, e.g. IQ. For example, she even don't know there is security camera in karaoke box (chapter 4)! And I think her performance in ch11 is also because of her IQ instead of EQ. It seems that her problematic bloodstream has certain effect on her "Q"s except for sex (similar effect on Makoto, but why less effect on Setsuna?)
2. Sekai's character in the second half of the anime is her real character - she just pretends to be outgoing in the first half, and because of the help of Setsuna... She might be similar with Kotonoha if Setsuna does not exist...
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1.iq应该不在本作讨论范围之内,不过我个人觉得世界应该比城聪明一点点. lol
Hikari has the highest EQ among all characters and has very high potential to "develop" according to the game version, and she may be the most suitable character along with Makoto (at least she does not care whether Makoto has other sex friends compared with Kotonoha and Sekai)
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我更倾向乙女或者刹那多一点,不过那是个人爱好吧.我只是奇怪她什么时候看中城的,难道她一直以来说要追城的朋友只是借口?!女人心哪...orz
I think Makoto has to take 70% of responsibility, Sekai 10% of responsibility (she creates the issue) and the other 20% is because of unfortunate (the mental problem of Kotonoha and Sekai). [/quote]
70%好象高了点...不过至少有50%吧,谁叫城是男人呢.
Thanks for your comments... It seems that you are as serious as me. However, I don't know how to type Chinese characters... But I am a bit surprised that you have not played the game before and I strongly suggest to play once so that you would know why so many ppl scold Makoto (But Makoto has the worst character in the anime version!) For your information, there are some people translated the first 4 chapters of the game into Chinese and I could send you the forum if you want.
Maybe you are correct...
According to my understanding, Sekai tends to take sick leave once encountered problems and won't back to school if Setsuna does not come to counsel her. There is also a game route which Sekai take one month sick leave because she is informed about Setsuna's leave and quaralled with Makoto (but that is her own problem)... It seems that Setsuna is very important to her.
Of course everybody know that Makoto should not be sentence to death in the real world. However, there is too much pressure in the real world and people need to release them. This is the reason why so many people want to see if Makoto is murdered by Sekai by the end... hopefully the last chapter could be resumed in next week as I don't want to wait for DVD (released in Feb 08!)作者: shibazi 時間: 2007-09-22 20:21
虽然不是想说讨论游戏中的人物的错与对没什么意义。但当有人一脸严肃地将那毫无人性的兽行说成“仅仅是对自己欲望的忠诚”时，其实错的是我们。作者: monsterprincess 時間: 2007-09-22 21:05
全是疯子，大家也就一起人来疯作者: gamelover 時間: 2007-09-22 22:13
[quote=alphahon]
Thanks for your comments... It seems that you are as serious as me. However, I don't know how to type Chinese characters... But I am a bit surprised that you have not played the game before and I strongly suggest to play once so that you would know why so many ppl scold Makoto (But Makoto has the worst character in the anime version!) For your information, there are some people translated the first 4 chapters of the game into Chinese and I could send you the forum if you want.
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谢谢,不过我不喜欢被吊着的感觉.所以我还是等全部汉化,或者自己学会日文吧...两者好象都是遥遥无期就是了. orz
[quote=alphahon]
Maybe you are correct...
According to my understanding, Sekai tends to take sick leave once encountered problems and won't back to school if Setsuna does not come to counsel her. There is also a game route which Sekai take one month sick leave because she is informed about Setsuna's leave and quaralled with Makoto (but that is her own problem)... It seems that Setsuna is very important to her.
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这个世界在动画里也说过了,还是eq问题啊...所以我说平时世界的家里蹲人格占了主导地位.但是黑掉的时候应该是那个积极的人格占主动吧. >_<
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Just for fun: Who should take the responsibility for the remaining percentage? ^_^
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hmm...城=50%, 世界=20%, 桂=10%, 其他=10%.这样如何? lol
[quote=alphahon]
Of course everybody know that Makoto should not be sentence to death in the real world. However, there is too much pressure in the real world and people need to release them. This is the reason why so many people want to see if Makoto is murdered by Sekai by the end... hopefully the last chapter could be resumed in next week as I don't want to wait for DVD (released in Feb 08!)
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嘛,其实也有其他宣泄压力的途径啦,比如让城成为世界的奴隶之类的...不过似乎不合男性观众的口味. lol
