FOR THE NEXT next generation of consoles, PS4, XBox3 and Wii2, it looks like Intel is in, Nvidia is out. The picture for their GPUs is starting to become clear.
Yeah, Intel won the PS4 GPU, no shock considering how much they needed a console win to get people coding for Larrabee. They can either convince companies to put in a code path for the chip in Big Budget Mediocre Sequel 7: Vengeance of the Farmland Creatures by sending people with wads of money and begging, or get a console win. They got a console win, and it was the right way to go.
Some people hanging around the Sony booth at CES were nice enough to let us in on the scoop. It seems Nvidia has proverbially bent Sony over like they did MS on the XBox, and are not really welcome there any more. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys, either way, but hardly an unexpected outcome.
Sony is looking pretty desperate nowadays with a multi-billion dollar loss in 2008, and more pain on the way for 2009. The PS3 has utterly failed in the market, and there was a lot of talk about whether or not there was going to be a PS4 at all. Sony needed a reliable partner with deep pockets which would actually be there in 2012 to fund this exercise in DRM, and it found one in Intel. Damn good choice really.
The nice Sony engineering lady at CES told us that Intel essentially bought the win, a theoretically good architecture, no imminent threats of going bust, and not being hated by Sony all contributed too. With a couple of deliverables satisfied, the PS4 GPU belongs to Intel. No word if this is going to be the entire architecture, CPU as well, or not. That, from what we are told, is not final yet.
Moving on to the the XBox3 GPU, also due in 2012, we hear strong rumors (but have not confirmed yet) that it is an ATI design. Given the close ties between ATI and MS over DirectX, the bad blood between Nvidia and MS over the grand Nvidia DX10 neutering, plus memories of the XBox1, this is not a surprise either. The bed was made for short-term profits years ago, time to lie in it.
That brings us to the Wii2, also due around the same time. Given that the ArtX / ATI guys have won about every Nintendo GPU since they went 3D, this one appears to be a no-brainer. If you take into account that it will likely be evolutionary, it is almost assuredly an ATI win as well, but we haven't confirmed it either way.
So in the end, you have Intel with one GPU confirmed, Larrabee, and ATI with another almost totally confirmed. The third is still unknown but likely will be ATI as well. Notice there is no Nvidia in this equation.
That will hamstring the egos in green badly soon, forcing them to spend a lot more on developer relations and tools if they can't claw back a console win. The games for 2012 start coding in a year, so the effects will be leading, not trailing for them.
The only real way for them to get a win at this point is to buy it, and they 1) don't have any money. 2) are bidding against someone who has money 3) are bidding against someone who they picked a stupid public fight with and 4) are hated by the two companies that make the consoles they target. This brilliant management strategy combines to mean they are locked out, if they survive that long.
Next next gen consoles also will likely have a CPU which we know nothing about. That said, given that Intel will basically be designing large swathes of the PS4, it would seem to be leaning toward x86. Given that, and MS's inclination toward x86 software, that would seem a natural path for them to follow as well, if for no other reason than to protect the living room from the ARM scourge running Linux.
With that, we have the first hard info on the next next generation gaming boxes. Given silicon time scales, three years out means work starts about now. ATI and Intel have work to do, but it should be very interesting when all things are done, a radical shift towards the PC of a magnitude not seen since the Playstation replaced cartridges with CDs.作者: 无音幽灵 時間: 2009-02-08 18:57
个人认为极其不可能,先不说PS4会不会存在,在我的眼里,用INTEL的GPU相当于是自杀...作者: alexxp 時間: 2009-02-08 20:03
传闻吧，现在谁都不知道inter的图形处理芯片性能到底怎样，sony应该不会这样轻易的就下决定，毕竟现在的处境已经够糟糕的了。作者: latch 時間: 2009-02-08 20:14
很怀疑是否真的，intel的gpu不大行啊。作者: hjjk 時間: 2009-02-08 20:36
3还没完全普及呢，估计现在想4了点！作者: 矛盾螺旋 時間: 2009-02-10 09:01
说实在，SCE已经进入寒冬期了，PS3再不靠降价促进销量，就是等死的份了。。。
与其考虑PS4，不如先考虑把眼前的PS3搞活吧，SCE，否则只有倒掉的份
PS：其实我是SEGA FAN，活着的每一天就是看着SCE垮掉，哇咔咔作者: forgods 時間: 2009-02-10 09:55
更新地好快啊，连3还没完就4了。作者: ww357 時間: 2009-02-10 10:42
有人关注4本身就说明3的问题不小.......作者: dpf3270827 時間: 2009-02-10 11:45
本人倒相反，是Sony的Fan，感觉SEGA的退出是大快人心啊，嘎嘎。如果任氏倒掉就更理想了。作者: parsonli 時間: 2009-02-12 18:06
ps3还没怎么发展了已经搞ps4了啊，sce在搞什么哦作者: 泡泡温泉 時間: 2009-02-12 18:13
估计各位不知道intel早在去年就发布过Larrabee这么个东西吧，从架构上看可是蛮革新的gpu系统。不过sony要是真的玩这个，确实是个冒险。作者: winner181818 時間: 2009-02-12 22:23
看来PS3实在让人失望啊作者: 月夜精灵 時間: 2009-02-12 23:07
江湖传言是不可靠的，还是等到出了才是真理作者: im31519 時間: 2009-02-15 22:10
各位真是流行,我最近才要剛入手個PS2呢....看來我是上個時代的人物啊!(嘆)作者: siomliu 時間: 2009-02-15 22:22
干脆搞台电脑出来的了，索尼不是有豪华的vaio吗？作者: diceboy 時間: 2009-02-16 04:31
还PS4？PS3的冬天还长着呢~呵呵，这么早发布这些，SONY想让ps3提早退休？作者: h-box 時間: 2009-02-16 11:02
不管snoy是用誰的gpu~~
但我覺得如果sony如果還是一味的走高價位策略的話!!
那ps4的結果可能還是跟ps3一樣!!
還是平民化的好!!!作者: yuzhimeng000 時間: 2009-02-16 23:03
还真是江湖传闻，现在PS3都没站住脚。有好游戏在PS3上单独发售估计。PS3回火吧，就想PS2一样。超多的好游戏作者: luffykillua 時間: 2009-02-16 23:50
神機3都還沒神起來就想神機4?人家社長說神機3能神個10年,加油吧神機 神機3的藍光功能真的很吸引呀作者: windfeather 時間: 2009-02-17 15:35
ps3都快撐不下去了，現在就在想4？
眼光遠是好，但也不要太早放棄現今的市場啊作者: zhuzi1129 時間: 2009-02-18 23:49
先购入ps3再说，ps4慢慢出吧～～作者: qlwhn 時間: 2009-02-19 00:05
INTEL有制程优势，还有INTEL跟NV的关系也搞得不怎么样（两个物理引擎的囧事）
而现在ATI的整合策略也是节节高
INTEL在移动平台迫切地希望可以做出双芯片平台（而不是现在的CPU,南北桥的三芯片），在下一代NetBook平台上就可以上马。
所以说intel的显示芯片使用也不是不可能
神機3的藍光功能真的很吸引呀